Sunday, August 24, 2008

Debka Makes Us Dumber Again

Information Dissemination


August 23, 2008

Debka is good at disinformation, but they are getting dumber and dumber by the day. This is classic Debka.

DEBKAfile’s military sources disclose that a powerful Russian naval contingent, led by the aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov , left Murmansk on the Barents Sea Aug. 18 to dock at the Syrian Mediterranean port of Tartus Saturday, Aug. 23. It includes the Russian Navy’s biggest missile cruiser Moskva and at least four nuclear missile submarines.
That would be amazing! According to Debka, the Admiral Kuznetsov and the rest of its powerful Russian navy contingent is heading to Syria, traveling the 4,903 nautical miles at sea from Murmansk to Tartus in 6 days! Wow! Too bad they failed math, because according to Debka the Russian naval group is going to average 34 knots for every nautical mile. Jeez, and people believe this stuff?

When I read something like this, I've always wondered if Debka is one of those secret message websites where specific readers have a secret decoder ring that enables them to obtain super secret messages hiding in plain sight, because this is just so stupid in its implication it is hard to believe they could be that dumb.

Anytime Debka talks about Navy stuff, go the other way. The Admiral Kuznetsov has been reported to be planning a deployment to Syria, but there is no evidence it has deployed. The source for that information was Russian news, and today the Northern fleet news is all about maintaining ships in the Med, but no word about a deployment yet.

Beware of Debka, they only write disinformation. For example, this is pure fantasy, That was a rumor started by Timothy Alexander (see google cache here, as original was deleted). In case you are curious, the USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN 71) is in Norfolk.

Fabius Maximus has been tracking that last rumor, and has every angle of the disinformation covered.

:: Article nr. 46648 sent on 24-aug-2008 11:30 ECT



  1. I don't know about pure fantasy. It seems that these armadas are heading for the Gulf. It you didn't notice, the USS Ronald Reagan is already in the Indian Ocean about 2 days away from the Gulf. And the Navy announced that the USS Iwo-Jima Strike group and the USS Roosevelt leave tomorrow for the Gulf. They will be there in less than two weeks. That means over half of the US Navy will be in the Gulf Region by the first week of September. And given the current carrier groups are not due to be rotated for some time, it seems something might be up. So maybe Debka does know something.

  2. Maybe so.
    There's been so much back and forth on this that I suppose we'll just have to wait a few days and see if we can get a clearer picture.