Sunday, June 14, 2009

Round 'em up

Free speech is still in effect in this country and some use it for agendas that would eliminate the free speech of those with whom they don't agree.

Round up 'hate speech' promoters?
by David Codrea

CBS News and U.S. News have posted a stunning, disturbing opinion piece by Bonnie Erbe. Here's who she is, for those of you who may not be familiar with her work:

Bonnie Erbe is a contributing editor at U.S. News & World Report and hosts PBS's weekly news analysis program, To the Contrary with Bonnie Erbe. She also writes a weekly syndicated newspaper column for Scripps Howard News Service.

Top credentials. Her voice is loud and reaches far. Here's what it's saying:

Round Up Hate-Promoters Now, Before Any More Holocaust Museum Attacks

Erbe takes her lead from a statement made by Playwright Janet Langhart Cohen on CNN following the Holocaust Museum shooting:

She said something must be done about ridding the Internet and the public dialogue of hate speech. I agree.

And what is that "something"?

Isn't it time we started rounding up promoters of hate before they kill?

I don't know, Bonnie, is it? Who is going to determine who the haters are? And without a Department of PreCrime, who can determine when one of them will kill? Who is going to be doing the round up? Are we going to maybe house them at Gitmo now that we're clearing that place out? Any trials planned in your little fantasy?

And what do you suggest "we" do if some decide to resist the "round ups"?

Why is it your "Final Solution"...I mean, "Last Roundup" to oppose neo-Nazism sounds just like something the Nazis would do, Bonnie?

I saw this coming when I wrote "Holocaust Museum shooting must not be exploited to erode liberty" the other day, citing a blogger on a popular left-wing site and expressing concern that it represented the tip of an iceberg. As we can see, it hasn't taken long for mainstream "authorized journalists" to take up the cause.

I note the chilling Ms. Erbe is affiliated with the Thomas Jefferson Street blog. I can't help but wonder what she'd have to say about an extreme insurrectionist promulgating violent views like this:

the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is it's natural manure.

If Ms. Erbe and those like her get their wish, we will find out how deep that tree's roots go, how wide its branches spread.

So who am I siding with, the haters?

From where I sit, that designation belongs to Ms. Erbe. And as far a neo-Nazis go, I can't help but notice many of her political sympathies appear both national and socialist in scope.

My friend and colleague Mike Vanderboegh has sized things up well in his open letter to Erbe:

You wish to sweep away those that you find "hateful." Have you ever considered that there are many who find your ideas "hateful?"

Most of the Founders understood that you should never pass a law that you wouldn't be willing to see enforced upon you by your own worst enemy. (John Adams didn't, but then he and his party were swept from power by the reaction to the Alien and Sedition Acts.) If you really believe what you wrote, and worse, get what you ask for, the resulting armed resistance to such a tyrannical proposal would sweep away the safe, mythical cocoon within which you seem to live.

And if you think that tyranny and civil war cannot come to this country, as divided ideologically and morally as we presently are, you are whistling past the graveyard of history.

A government that would do what Bonnie Erbe demands is the very reason Thomas Jefferson wrote:

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it...

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

"Throw off."

And how would they do that?

{source - Examiner}

Also see David Codrea's Prior restraints on speech and guns enable tyranny

Global warming 'deniers' have also been verbally threatened.

Environmentalist Robert F. Kennedy Jr. in 2007 declared that skeptics of global warming hysteria are guilty of "treason."

Then NASA’s James Hansen said climate skeptics should be put on trial for "high crimes against humanity."

And Kennedy recently called coal companies "criminal enterprises" and said their CEO’s should be jailed "for all of eternity."

Now a global warming alarmist has taken the vitriol to new heights, calling for the execution of global warming deniers.

"At what point do we jail or execute global warming deniers? . . . {more}

The root of all 'hate crime' laws lies in the protection of zionist interests. Free speech extermination is simmering in the US controlled media and in the so called left wing progressive arena.

Obama has already warned against free speech concerning challenging the 'official' 9/11 story and holocaust 'denial.' Do you think he wouldn't sign into law bills to criminalize free speech and inquiry into the 'sacred' propaganda of the ruling elite?

Can't happen here? The US assisted in the kidnapping of a free speech dissenter, Ernst Zundel. Disagreement with an individual's opinions does not give any government the right to imprison them, or worse?

Who Is Ernst Zündel, And Why Is He In Jail?

By Mark Weber

For two years, Ernst Zundel was held without charge in solitary confinement in Canada on the pretext that he was a threat to national security. On March 1, 2005, he was moved in a charter plane to Germany, where he wads subjected to a Stalinist-type show trial and sentenced to five years in prison - for "Holocaust Denial." A defense based on forensic and documentary evidence was not allowed - and for good measure, even his defense attorney, Sylvia Stolz, was sentenced to three-and-a-half years in prison for offering materials in his defense!

Who is this "dangerous" activist that so much effort has been expended for decades to speak his truth - as he knows it?

This 69-year-old German-born writer, publisher and civil rights activist is a political prisoner and a victim of great injustice.

Who is this man, and why is his case so important?


Zundel was arrested at his home in Tennessee on Feb. 5, where he had been living peacefully with his wife, Ingrid Rimland, on the pretext that he missed an interview date with immigration authorities. Two weeks later he was deported to Canada, even though his wife is an American citizen.

Claiming that he is a national security threat, Canadian authorities held him in isolation for two years. The Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) — something like the American FBI — supported this charge by citing tenuous and years-old ties by Zundel to “white supremacist” groups. While acknowledging that he is not violent himself, CSIS argues that material published by Zundel might cause “like-minded individuals to engage in violence.”

There is absolutely no basis for the “security threat” charge. Zundel’s life is an open book. He is a peaceful man with no record of violence. During the 40 years he lived in Canada, he was never convicted of a crime. In fact, he has himself been a victim of hate and violence. He survived at least three attempts on his life, including a devastating arson attack against his residence.

Jewish groups demanded that Zundel be deported to Germany, where he would face years of imprisonment for the “thought crime” of “denying the Holocaust.” (“Holocaust denial” is against the law in Germany, France, Switzerland and some other European countries.)

Zundel is in prison not because his views are unpopular, or because he’s a “security risk.” He’s in prison because Jewish groups want him there. He’s a prisoner because he promotes views that the Jewish-Zionist lobby considers harmful to its interests.

This lobby is the decisive, critical factor in the decades-old campaign to silence him. The only sustained and institutionalized effort to imprison him has come from this lobby, which includes the Simon Wiesenthal Center, the Canadian Jewish Congress, the Canadian Holocaust Remembrance Association, and the League for Human Rights of B’nai B’rith (with the Anti-Defamation League, its counterpart in the US). {more}

The round up of dissenters considered a threat to the status quo is now a possibility, either through legislation or executive order. That executive order would come quick in the aftermath of a new catastrophic and catalyzing event. The most recent catalyzing event of Sept. 11, 2001 proved that the pursuit of control knows no bounds.


  1. Christians Need To Start Mobilizing--And Discovering What Christianity Really Is
    (Apollonian, 14 Jun 09)

    So Bonnie Erbe, well paid prostitute for Jews, wants to "round up hate-promoters"?--well, of course. Jews and accomplices (see and for expo/ref. on CFR-Bilderberg conspiracy) have taken over USA, now actually the US of ENRON, and are consolidating. Look out for bolsheviki enforcers, next.

    Jews have done this take-over by means of their COUNTERFEITING fraud, the Federal Reserve Bank (Fed)--see,, and for expo/ref. Thus Jews have literally just bought everything and everyone in the ZOG-Mammon empire.

    "Hate promoters"?--who are these, actually?--they're those who oppose and dissent fm the Jew take-over of our formerly Christian country, aren't they?

    And "Christians," filled with HUBRIS of success and affluence of "Decline of the West," by Oswald Spengler, sure are stupid, aren't they?--for they just don't want to face fact Christianity is SUPPOSED to be anti-semitic (anti-Talmud, as Gosp. MARK 7:1-13). I'm sure a lot of "Christians" must be wondering what Christianity really is supposed to be.

    So Christians better start getting smart--better start MOBILIZING--like blacks did during 50s and 1960s.

    So who/what then are primary target for mobilized Christians?--those are foremost Jew enablers, accomplices, facilitators, the "Judeo-Christian" (JC--see and hereticalists who teach stupid people and JCs to worship Jews and Israel, who lie and say Christ was Jew (hence Talmudist).

    CONCLUSION: So when Bonnie Erbe tells u she wants to "round up" people, she's talking about Christians, dummies, real Christians--anti-semites. So what's happening just gets simpler and simpler, evermore easy to understand--u gotta be really stupid not to understand. And at certain pt., if u're really that dumb, I guess u don't deserve to survive, do u? Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

  2. The SPLC is engaging in a conspiracy with other like minded groups and branding the museum incident with 9/11 truthers.

    They've also got maps of each state showing where these groups are at and Tennessee is one of the states with the largest number of SPLC targets.

    As for those bullet hits in that door, I'm guessing that the door glass was bullet proofed.

    If so, those indentations in the glass weren't caused by an anemic .22 caliber bullet.

    It would take something much heavier, like a 9mm to cause that kind of damage.

    There's been so much hysteria and fear generated by this incident that no one is sure who shot the guard.

    Will we get to read about the autopsy?

  3. So the SPLC says there is a 'hate group right here in my county.
    "Fraternal White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan. An old-school Klan of True White Patriots."
    I wasn't aware of that. I wonder if the FBI has its hand in it?

    Last year, to keep order, a sheriff's car with siren blasting, lead a parade of about twenty trucks and convertibles carrying kids with confederate flags and signs through town. I didn't have my camera with me to document the event.

    As for the autopsy, that may be kept confidential to 'protect' the victim's family. Even if it is released, how will we know if it's the truth?