Saturday, November 27, 2010

It's what we are dealing with

Thanksgiving day at a gathering of over 20 family and extended family members we had a 9/11 discussion. It was initiated by a guy in his twenties who began spouting the standard anti-muslim 9/11 story and the need for wars and who really got worked up when my wife stated that it was our government with help  that did 9/11 and that the buildings were brought down by controlled demolition.

Almost everyone there was college educated but no one had done one iota of research on the events of that day and only knew the official story. No one had even heard of building 7.

Now everyone admitted that the government and media lies to us on a constant basis but to a person they refused to believe that 9/11 was not done by 19 arabs with boxcutters and their boss bin Laden. They cannot grasp the fact that there are Americans who will kill their own for profit and power. Good people who can't quite understand that psychopaths in power are not like us. They want to believe that there are lines that the crooks in government, as they freely call them, won't cross.

I think this attitude is typical of so many. It's what we are dealing with.


Even eyewitnesses are passed off as being mistaken in the fog of disaster.
A man clearly states he witnessed the building come straight down as a result of bombs/explosions/flashes popping BELOW the impact zone. A so-called expert tried telling him he didn't see or hear any such things.
h/t Facts not Fairies

28 comments:

  1. Many Germans were blind about Hitler.

    Many Russians were blind about Stalin.

    Today, in Europe, there are plenty of people who understand the evils of fascism and communism, people who know about the CIA's Greek colonels, the CIA-NATO's Operation Gladio, the CIA-NATO's Ergenekon, the Soviets gulags etc.

    But there are still too many people who are brainwashed.

    Keep up the good work.

    The opinion polls show that opinion is moving in the direction of 9 11 truth.

    - Aangirfan.

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  2. Thanks aan,

    Of course you are correct but our frustration is still there. One thing I learned a long time ago was to mask the frustration with an aura of calm and just basic facts. The guy at the gathering who started the talk became very emotional when he realized that there were some who did not agree with his 'belief' in official stories and threw up his hands saying "whatever" and left the room. The brainwashing does run deep.

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  3. When trying to convert someone about 9 11 it can be useful to mention:

    1. The 1605 Gunpowder Plot as a classic government plot intended to enrich the elite.
    2. The widespread support for fascism among the elites in Europe and America in the 1930s.
    3. The bringing into the USA of many top Nazis in 1945; post war groups such as Bilderberg and P2 which unite 'fascists' and Zionists; the use by the Pentagon and CIA of Nazi brainwashing techniques in MK ULTRA.
    4. Operation Mockingbird, the CIA takeover of the media worldwide.
    5. CIA-NATO-Israeli links to atrocities in South America, Africa and Asia; such as the CIA links to Charles Taylor, CIA-MI6 links to the Muslim Brotherhood, CIA-Mossad links to paramilitaries and drugs gangs in Colombia, CIA links to Moslem terrorists in Afghanistan and the Philippines and Indonesia, the CIA's toppling of the Shah of Iran, CIA links to David Headley.
    6. CIA-NATO terrorism in Europe and Turkey, including the Bologna Bomb.
    7. Salem bin Laden's part in Iran Contra; Osama bin Laden's stay at an American hospital just before 9 11; Mohamed Atta being trained at a US military base and learning to fly at an airfield in Venice Florida used for CIA ops.

    Too many Americans ONLY know about the Twin Towers and are ignorant about Ergenekon or shootings in Belgium or CIA pilots bombing churches in Indonesia.

    - Aangirfan

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  4. I've met a few people like the one you describe as throwing up his hands and saying "whatever".

    They usually have very tidy houses, never read books, and have a deep respect for the military.

    - Aangirfan

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  5. I live in one of those homes, with two Tee Vee addicted Hitlers. just to place food out for the birds, an ideological ordeal.

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  6. Its all about planting seeds Kenny... let nature do the rest.

    Keep up the good work.

    Edo

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  7. Your wife sounds like an awesome person who calls bullshit when she hears it. We need more people like that in this world. I feel your frustration though, its a constant struggle fighting such ignorance. There will never be a shortage of Americans willing to believe such obvious bullshit-in this case the governments 9/11 story. The hope is that those of us like yourself and your wife and the type of people who frequent sites like this will change enough minds in the end for it to matter. I have my doubts but we must keep trying regardless.

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  8. If we lick boots and sing praises to our benevolent corporate pimps they will keep us in peace and safety. We gonna go Korea and kick some ass like we are doing in Vietghanistan.

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  9. Those who don't read, or listen can grasp an idea via pictures, like comic books can tell a story without many words. A revealing graphic can get information across without a person actually putting much effort into reading--as ads are done--or even consciously thinking. If only seeds of truth are planted, that is a beginning. With hope that maybe questions may be asked. Curiosity is a motivator. One suggestion is to put good-sized photos, especially in color, in individual plastic sleeves. Put them in a colorful binder and place it out in the open--as a coffetable book. Argument often closes minds, but interesting pictures can be an attraction. Think how many people enjoy watching violent movies! Yuk!

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  10. so true Kenny, and my experience also, time after time. educated or not, brainwashing has been very effective. and it divides Americans.

    great comments and suggestions by Aan too.

    I live in one of those homes, with two Tee Vee addicted Hitlers. just to place food out for the birds, an ideological ordeal.

    grim laughter!

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  11. I think part of the problem is fear. Facing up to the truth about 911 requires courage--something most people lack. Even the guy who said "whatever" probably realizes, on a subconscious level, that many aspects of the official 911 story simply don't add up. But relocating that knowledge from his subconscious to his conscious means coming to terms with the fact that his country and his life and his world are ruled by what are essentially killers. It's a knowledge from which most people cringe and shy away--sort of like you cringe from looking over into an abyss. I used to have similar arguments with certain members of my own family, but I've kind of given it up, realizing that they're more comfortable with their illusions. This doesn't mean, however, that the 911 Truth Movement should give up; you should definitely keep fighting. Mainly I think it comes down to a question each person needs to decide for himself or herself--i.e., whether speaking truth to someone you're related to is worth turning a family holiday get-together into a verbal free for all. For me it wasn't, but for others it might be.

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  12. Fan club for Mrs. Kenny coming soon! :D

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  13. It's easier to believe the lie, than look in the mirror and say 'My government is the terrorist, my taxes finance murder and genocide, I am RULED by banks, my government is a collection agency.'

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  14. Very insightful observations from all.

    "Mrs. Kenny" also says thanks.

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  15. lol! A. Peasant. More of an ordeal than you can imagine. I have to sneak past with the bread in my armpit. I also have 8 Raccoons to supply with water, takes three milkjugs per nite. My little secret, for the last few months. Their kind faces, and soft touches as they take my gifts, in response to my twitterings at them, all that keeps me sane. They love raisins, and Cheerios.

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  16. A couple pics of my Raccoon friends, here;
    http://oi56.tinypic.com/2pyt16f.jpg
    http://oi55.tinypic.com/n5roes.jpg
    http://oi56.tinypic.com/1ptq1h.jpg

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  17. Richard is right. Such topics were studiously avoided here in Massachusetts, but that is what we are dealing with. Thanks for at least standing up, Tennessee. -- Rocker

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  18. None of the stuff on Aangirfan's list has any direct relevance to 9/11.

    If you really want to open someone's eyes and convert them to your way of thinking, Kenny, just give them a copy of Victor Ostrovsky's "By Way of Deception".

    Ostrovsky is a former Mossad agent who knows all about Israel's false flag ops (which is what 9/11 was) and their numerous attempts to trick others into doing their dirty work for them.

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  19. The Zionists would love to see Christians and Muslims annihilate each other in a global war.

    And thanks to 9/11 and other false flag provocations, they may get their wish.

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  20. No one had even heard of building 7

    Building What?

    Everyone's too damn caught up with wondering what college football teams are going to the BCS and is Lindsay Lohan really a drunken slut?

    Inquiring minds want to know!!!

    Good thing the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" are a forgery or the USA would be in an economic depression, brought about by the Zionist owned MSM and the Jewish run Federal Reserve.

    “The ruin of the Gentile States has been accomplished by withdrawal of money from circulation. We alone own their banks and control their fiscal policies. They are bound to us irrevocably by long-term debts and the interest we exact on those debts.”

    Protocols of Zion, #20

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  21. anon, those are cute little bandits! thanks for the pics.

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  22. Cute yes, bandits definitely. I've been trying to live trap for relocation one very sneaky coon for two weeks to no avail. Thanks for the tip, I'll try raisins.

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  23. Dear raccoon fan, you may want to reconsider feeding cheerios to your friends, they are GMO.

    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=44805

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  24. Yes, Saladin, I mean Oh nnnnnooooooo! I've been researching all I can find on Raccoons. Urban Raccoons have an average lifespan of only 1.8 years, traffic n stuff. Cat food supposedly bad for them. Roundworm guarantees an agonizing death. Ever seen 'happy' Raccoons? LoL last nite they were rolling around playing jumping up swatting branches like little basketball stars. Priceless.
    Yeah I don't know what to do about them. They don't do much damage, and they don't eat much more than a housecat would. They show up about two hours after dark. But once the commies get wind of them, I fear the worst. I bonded with the pregnant mother this summer when she was being attacked by about 50 Crows. They have a tough existence. My two hours a night frolicking with them has been a gift from heaven. There seems to be nowhere for them to go, but somehow they survive.

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  25. I only wanted to let you know because I doubt that GMO food is any better for them than it is for us! Wouldn't want to do anything that made their lives harder than they already are. The only experience I have with them, I live in a very rural area of the Sierra Nevada Mtns., is when they get into a tussle outside my bedroom sliding glass door. Man, what a screechy racket they make! Sounds like they're ripping each other to shreds.

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  26. Haha yeah they fight a lot, horrible racket, but I have yet to see one with scratches.... I'm near downtown Victoria bc. I scatter their treats to keep them apart. The females apparently will hang together, whereas the males require an 8 sq mile territory.

    All new to me, I used to chase them away, because they were pooping horrible smelling turds right under my bedroom window but they were obviously starving and the Crow incident piqued my interest. Amazing kind personalities. Unless one is raising chickens I can't see them as much of a threat. Very shy polite astonishingly beautiful creatures. No more smell now,, HA!. They crap somewhere else.

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  27. We have beavers here and they have damned off a section of the creek. The city says we own the creek (?) and to kick out the beavers. We laughed and said we'll get around to it sometime this millennium.

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  28. In a logging cap I worked at years ago the roadbuilders destroyed a beaver dam because it was flooding their road. The next morning we were delayed getting to work because the beavers had felled a tree across the road in revenge. We laughed and laughed.

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