Thursday, April 10, 2014

At a Tortoise Pace

The desert tortoise gets its 15 minutes of world wide fame. Too bad it was because the critter became a pawn in a fed vs. individual game of who's got the power, who owns the land and water.Poor things, they don't deserve the lies.

Cliven Bundy and family may have had grandfathered in rights to graze cattle on  'disputed' land? But the feds did not have the right to take anything from them or anybody without a trial with a jury of their peers.

The mainstream media is barely covering the siege going on in Nevada...yet. Snipers and a roped off free speech area on private land? The police state makes their own rules at the point of gun. When Shawn Hannity interviews Bundy and runs with the story, it makes you go hmmmm. Many outlets are suggesting that this may be a new Ruby Ridge or even a Waco in what some may hope is a self-fulfilling prophecy. It would be good for ratings.

Let's hope it doesn't go that far. It may be a test to see how the public reacts. If everything dies down without incident, it will be on to the next theft. Then again, who knows what the ultimate agenda may be?

If anyone has any thoughts on this event, please share.......





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  1. I have read that the Feds/Wealthy corporatists want the land for its rich natural resources and for profitable recreation development. Apparently the BLM are actually killing off the tortoises themselves. Historical deja vu, isn't it? This is exactly what the US Gov't/US Army, wealthy railroad builders, buffalo hunter mercenaries did to "remove" native Americans from their rightful land. What the government wants, the government takes--thieving and killing as necessary. Times have not changed, just the designated victims. The idea of stand your ground against tyranny, but do so without outright resistance is the gate-keepers, limited hangout ruse to seem supportive, but not actually being so. Until there is a military strength stand up against this tyranny, a resistance such as this one is on the losing end. Principle is not enough and has limited value, mainly personal, unless it becomes a martyrdom of a very popular leader with a massive following of loyalists committed by blind Ignorance or knowledgeable bravery such as those who were committed to the American Revolution. At this point in time, Martial Law could very well be the outcome where the Military powers will prevail -- even without such a M.L. declaration. Some patriots will suffer consequences, but the majority of Americans will never even understand as they will not be informed by Media or government of any truth.

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    1. Thanks for a concise perspective. This is an issue of concern and only one of many. We are being inundated with madness.

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  2. http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-cliven-bundy-standoff-wounded-knee.html?m=1

    Good take on this.

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    1. Will definitely makes very important points. It's a must read.

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  3. The planet has bee overtaken by subhumans, only a pole shift or meteorite will fix it. They own the money, they molest children, they laugh at normal people. They own the gold. There was no American revolution, Ben Franklin had bones under his house from child sacrifice. The world is run by laws. This is the law, America is a bankrupt corporation and that is by Black's law book. Alpha agencies get their check from the UN. America receives bailouts from the UN as Greece,Spain and others.

    http://www.in5d.com/40-outrageous-facts-most-people-dont-know.html

    The IRS is not a U.S. Government Agency. It is an Agency of the IMF. (Diversified Metal Products v. IRS et al. CV-93-405E-EJE U.S.D.C.D.I., Public Law 94-564, Senate Report 94-1148 pg. 5967, Reorganization Plan No. 26, Public Law 102-391.)

    The world goes by corp law, not what people are fed by FOX news. Your opinion or what you think doesn't matter, the world operates under crown law.

    America is a mercenary army that attacks people on behalf of the NWO. To do otherwise is immediate bankruptcy. It is bankruptcy anyway as the world is aligning against us. There are clever people out there that seem legit. Paul Craig Roberts licks their boots by proclaiming America is pulling Europe's strings, Lendman does the same. No the American Alpha agencies draw their paychecks from the UN child molesters. Americans are idiots. (Fluoride, aspartame, vaccines, GMO etc) It is the same for Canada and Australia, they are under the crown which answers to the vatican which plans to crown their prince soon with land donated by Isreal if things pan out. They won't. Factor in the monkey wrench of the Gods. There will be a pole shift or comet.


    “The Sacred Mother is screaming for life and the meteorites will hear her cries and answer her call for help. They will hit the earth from the heavens with such force that many internal things will happen as well as external. The earth will move as a result of the impact. This will cause the sacred fire that is the source of all life to the Mother to move through her body. She is like a Great Bird within the egg, trying to crack out… “




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    1. I sent $50 to help cover the costs of food and water for the growing number of people gathering there. It'll be gone in a wink. It's symbolic support, and everyone's counts at this moment.

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  4. The IMF is an Agency of the UN. (Blacks Law Dictionary 6th Ed. Pg. 816)

    3. The U.S. Has not had a Treasury since 1921. (41 Stat. Ch.214 pg. 654)

    4. The U.S. Treasury is now the IMF. (Presidential Documents Volume 29-No.4 pg. 113, 22 U.S.C. 285-288)

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  5. Saw this today...

    Getting ready for the official “reconstitution” of the states into ten regions? Notice a lot of “inter-agency” activity of late? Operation “Capstone 2014″ began 3/27/2014 didn’t it? There are some “exercises” associated with this operation. They are:

    •Alaska Shield: FEMA and state emergency management agencies, including Alaska, will commemorate the anniversary of the 1964 9.2 magnitude Great Alaskan Earthquake, with an exercise that tests response and mass casualty care.

    •Ardent Sentry 14: In conjunction with Alaska Shield and other exercises during the period, the Department of Defense will exercise its Defense Support to Civilian Authorities’ mission.

    •Nuclear Weapon Accident/Incident Exercise: The Department of Energy will participate in the exercise with a scenario that tests response and recovery following an accident during secure transport convoy of nuclear weapons.

    •Eagle Horizon 2014: During this exercise, many federal departments and agencies will activate their continuity of operations and reconstitution planning to test their continuity plans and ensure that primary mission essential functions can take place from alternate facilities.

    •Silver Phoenix 2014: This exercise explores challenges associated with examining, prioritizing, and conducting recovery activities involving multiple geographically-dispersed and competing events using the National Disaster Recovery Framework.

    found it interesting, and surprised I haven't heard of this before.

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  6. Bundy ain't no Randy Weaver and this isn't Ruby Ridge.

    The BLM, the Forest Service, Department of Interior, etc, are notorious for leasing grazing land, or selling leases to harvest timber or extract oil and NG at way below market value.

    Basically, taxpayers are subsidizing these outfits to suck all the wealth out of an area, then move on.

    Bundy decided that even paying that token fee was too much, and after 20 years, the Feds decided to act.

    If he wanted to make a sincere statement, he should of started paying the BLM what the grazing lease was actually worth and then raised hell with the media outlets, demanding that the other moochers cough up their fair share.

    BLM charges $1.35 per 'grazing unit' a month, so Bundy has been feeding his cattle for a little over one dollar per month per cow, which is one helluva bargain. Add in the loss to streams caused by the cows tearing up the banks and dirtying the water and Bundy and others are sucking on a particularly large government tit.

    He's got 14 kids, so when the IRS said he no longer had to pay income taxes since he had so many kids, did he complain about that?

    He should of, since I think the government is taking away from those with only a couple of kids or no children at all and giving it to breeding pairs like the Bundy's.

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  7. Those gathering there need to watch for one thing - paid provocateurs.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfOVg5R4ngA

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  8. Kenny

    All the world's a stage. The MSM that has covered this is Fox/Hannity and Drudge had 5-6 links grouped together for the last few days. Militia? There is no real world militia. There is just government run faux militia looking to "recruit" dupes into these organizations.

    That media outfit that happened to be there is run by Pete Santilli . I don't know if he is an FBI informant but anyone who has to wear a costume to be a radio personality is suspicious to me.

    I do remember the Government Shutdown (TM) putting up barriers to keep WWII vets from going to open WWII Memorial and Truckers En Route to shut down DC show last year. It was all staged. Every last bit of it. The whole thing was topped off by the stenographer on a mission from God to let the congress know that He will not be mocked.

    What is it all about? I don't know. Diversion perhaps? State versus Fed showdown to be crushed as a warning? Dupe real disgruntled getRdones into doing something stupid? Whatever it is, if it gets Drudged, it is Drudged for a reason.

    Well, that is the way I see it. I also think the grazing fee is not really much when you consider what you get in return. And the fact that is not really mentioned (that I saw) in any of the "news" (both MSM and Fauxlternative) reports is another reason to disbelieve any of this is an organic "rebellion" that needs a "show of force."

    If you watch this Guerilla Media Network production and keep an eye out for signs of fakery and staging you will see it.

    Aris

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    1. You caught my drift on the Santilli video, via WRH which is also promoting this event. I had not heard that he was an FBI asset but always suspected him. When playing the 'who do you trust' game with these groups and many radio shows, there aren't many to count on. If you know any 'major' radio hosts you think are legit, please let me know.

      Most militia groups, like the KKK and similar are infiltrated to the max. They do prey on the dupes. The SPLC for years has said there's a KKK group in my area which no one has ever heard of. Call an 800 number to see about joining. Yeah, right.

      Real or staged, government overreach stirs a lot of folks up. While we are stirred up and distracted usually there's something else going on in the background.

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    2. "If you know any 'major' radio hosts you think are legit, please let me know."

      I don't know of any. I believe any legit (major) media personalities with a voice loud enough to be heard will be silenced. Danny Casolaro and Gary Webb come to mind. Who knows how many have been silenced before we had a chance to hear or read them.

      Same as whistle blowers. Real whistle blowers are never heard. The ones that are fabricated are publicized and get the full force and then made to look crazy. Only crazy people would think their government needs oversight. Not that being born a man and wanting to be a woman is crazy. "Hey, now put on this wig and lipstick and take a selfie. Trust me it will be funny, trust me."

      Aris

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    3. Gary Webb was too good, too honest and couldn't be allowed to live. His is still one of the greatest journalistic stories of our lifetime.

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  9. We have to be careful that this is not already a stage managed provocation. We are approaching the middle of April, as anyone knows its the beginning of the time they prefer to use especially if blood gets shed. We have to think out of the box this time.

    Now is the time to confound our enemy.

    Exposure of the corruption that lies beneath this unconstitutional activity is a good starting point.

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    1. Hey Carol, you have done more than your fair share of exposing the April blood letting and we'll always keep that history in our minds. If there's an end game and the perps are greatly arrogant, April 19-Davidian compound burning and the OK City bombing-would be the day. That would too obvious so I don't think it will happen. We'll stay tuned anyway.

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    2. both Kenny and Carol can share much in the *gut feeling dept.* {faites attention}

      and then there are guys like Davy who get so upset watching mass murderers on Talmudvision
      that they rush in where Angels fear to tread, and get called all the COINTELPRO names for telling the truth about the real terrorists...

      Bman & Queen Noor and Les Visible and that GOON SQUAD guy kinda
      shine a spotlight on the proselytes to Talmudic Judaism called "Zionists"

      like Alex Trebeck sez....filthy anti-Semites.

      Mr. A is making the rounds....stay tuned

      Davy

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    3. The first date of John Hagee's "Blood Moon" is the 15th of April - the day after Passover - so it wouldn't be a big surprise if some big blowup isn't going to be staged soon.

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  10. One question for Mr. Bundy:

    Where does he stand on 9/11? Does he believe the multitude of lies told to Americans by the government or can he think for himself?

    That's the one and only question that matters.

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    1. I agree, the 9/11 litmus test should be administered first and we'll go from there. As you said earlier, Bundy is no Randy Weaver, a man I can relate to. Also, Bundy is a Mormon or of Mormon descent, if that has anything to do with anything.

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  11. http://cofarmbureaublog.wordpress.com/2010/03/04/leaked-memo-uncovers-administration-land-grab/

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  12. " If you know any 'major' radio hosts you think are legit, please let me know."

    Or TV anchors, or book authors, or independent alternative journalists, or bloggers.

    I have on more than one occasion and with more than one individual, including some who come by this neighborhood or are a part of it, that there must be some concerted effort and mechanism (data base, discussion board, e-mail chain, virtual meeting, dedicated blog) that is run by several and open to people who have been vetted in some general sense (though I'd a little antsy about "litmus tests", but don't have an argument about the hardcore ones like 9/11, JFK, and others) that will begin to collect the evidence about individual X or outlet Y. You don't have to agree with me or answer my litmus test and get a minimum of an A-; you have to be willing to discuss it honestly and coherently. I think the word "acknowledgement" might fit.

    Aris and I exchanged e-mails about one such outlet, and I don't think clear proof beyond a shadow of a doubt was offered. But I'll keep my mind open.

    This BLM/Bundy thing, yes, is beginning to look stage-managed. But that doesn't make Bundy illegitimate or his viewpoint unacceptable.

    Aris took me to task for sending a contribution, and I've done this again in this Bundy case, but that's my personal method and approach. The phrase is "I've got some skin in the game". If I've coughed up a contribution or made some commitment, sacrifice or other, then I am qualified to judge and I am qualified to ask.

    The cruncher for me -- my own personal litmus test -- is if I get a chance to "talk" or converse with the party in question and put direct questions to them. I've met members of the board of OathKeepers and attended several meetings.

    The manner in which people answer and converse is often more telling than the text with which they answer. The speed, the forthrightness, the directness, the integrity... When it's no longer there, I cut bait.

    By counter-example I had one momentous encounter online with an author who wrote extensively about the Casolaro case, and the promptness, depth, and willingness to take a stand dangerous to her self told me all I needed to know. I showed her that I had read her work intelligently and was willing to stand with her.

    I pray we all keep our wits about us.

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  13. WTF do those cows eat, sand?

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  14. No fly zone set up over Bundy ranch. Can't have photos or video from the air to show what's going on.

    http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_4_1687.html

    Although not live as of this moment, there is a video stream from the ranch which supposedly will be live sometime today. I think this may be from Santilli again.

    http://12160.info/video/live-stream-blm-standoff-with-cliven-bundy-nevada-ranch

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    1. Looking at your NOTAM. There are some interesting things that pop out.

      The flight restriction started April 11 2140 UTC. UTC Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) is the basis for civil time in many places worldwide. Sames as Zulu, or Greenwhich Mean Time. This means 1:40 PM in Nevada time. The end time is May 11 1434 (odd time to end?) Which is 6:34 AM Nevada time.

      "ONLY RELIEF AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS UNDER DIRECTION OF BLM ARE AUTHORIZED IN THE AIRSPACE" What relief aircraft operations are expected?

      Authority is Title 14 CFR section 91.137(a)(1)
      Which is "(1) Protect persons and property on the surface or in the air from a hazard associated with an incident on the surface;" So what incident happened?

      Look to the left of that are on the map. Mormon Mesa

      Take your pick on the links.
      This one caught my eye

      Aris


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  15. Are there satellite photos emerging? Any pinging going on? Simultaneous drills? [There does appear to be a technical display of skills from the old 'Rawhide' TV show...] Any crisis actors? That side of beef... that one there.. you can tell by his spots that it's the same one that was in that commercial on ....

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  16. Over at Google News, well down the page, CNN is cited saying the Feds have ended the round-up, citing safety. At WRH, the Examiner notes that cell towers have been shut down, and Mark Dice rants about the SPLC labeling of Bundy as a domestic terrorist and anti-gov't extremist.

    When the gov't is, itself, extremist and engaged in terror... well, another day...

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  17. Mike Rivero (and others?) are declaring "victory"in the battle of the grazing cows, but it's only sadly humorous that they do so after a few days when they are up against an enemy that thinks in terms of "the long march".

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  18. Interesting comment from Anonymous @ 11.34 on Saturday's - Reflections in a Petri Dish........food for thought.

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  19. "Victory" means blowing a shofar? Must be a mormon/jewish thing.

    Go down on the page below to the second set of photos, second picture.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/u-s-stops-fight-nevada-rancher-grazing-land-article-1.1754457

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    1. Yep....he must be one tough mother to take four blasts up close from a taser....

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  20. Now that the event may be 'over,' every local tv channel is reporting it as well as the major media, CNN, NBC etc. Where were they all week long?

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  21. I had the Santilli UStream up in the background until the feed was gone. I think he forgot sometimes it was live. It was interesting to see him chat it up with Mark Dice who also managed to make the journey. Bundy may be or was the real deal but Santilli is definitely playing Mr Agitator.

    He kept demanding that the BLM turn in their AR15 underneath the US Flag at "center stage" within one hour or else.

    Aris

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    1. Santilli really talked it up, didn't he? Dice is another one I have no use for.

      So if this was a test, staff meetings in various places tomorrow would be interesting to listen in on.

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  22. Greetings Kenny

    Off topic:

    Stumbled upon more news about Barry the pink poodle and dreamboat tranny, queen of sodom.

    "Don’t get me wrong. I don’t hold against Obama that he is a homosexual. If anything I feel sorry for him. Nor do I hold against him that he is born outside the United States or that he’s a cocaine addicted Communist Muslim who used to earn his drug money as a teenage male prostitute sleeping with older white men and as such does everything he can to destroy the country and race he hates most. That’s his choice of life-style. What I hold against him is that he is a mass-murderous psychopath and pathological liar. Time to send HIM to Guantanamo Bay."

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  23. There's plenty of dirt on Harry Reid here:

    Harry Reid's Connection to Bundy Ranch Siege

    http://www.futurnamics.com/reid_bundyranch.php

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