Saturday, June 30, 2012

Apathetic Spectators at the Circus Maximus

Laurie Lipton – ROUND & ROUND

I swiped the title from a line in this article where the author briefly describes how truly crazy dangerous our society is.

Apathy is a powerful tool used against us which seemingly arises from free will. You've probably heard someone say that it's their choice not to care. Apathy is a numbness that masks the fact that a knife is gradually being plunged into our back. Once we see the blood, it's too late.

Bo Bartlett
"The tyranny of a prince in an oligarchy is not so dangerous to the public welfare as the apathy of a citizen in a democracy."
        Charles de Montesquieu

“Scientists talk about dark matter, the invisible, mysterious substance that occupies the space between stars. Dark matter makes up 99.99 percent of the universe, and they don't know what it is. Well I do. It's apathy. That's the truth of it; pile together everything we know and care about in the universe and it will still be nothing more than a tiny speck in the middle of a vast black ocean of Who Gives a Fuck.”
         David Wong

So what is the cure for apathy? Knowledge and comprehension? Thoughts which become words which then become actions? Seeing the circus for what it is and turning away from it? Individuals looking for the cure will find many ways that will work for them. The problem is that many don't want a cure. They like the circus. It's a distraction from the hopelessness that is the sibling of apathy. Saying "I don't care" becomes a mechanism to hide from reality and responsibility.

Is there a cure for our collective apathy? I don't really know. Apathy is more of a symptom rather than an underlying cause and a disease can never be cured by only treating the symptoms.

Apathy is the enemy of truth
Lies rely on their friend of indifference

Richard Estes


  1. Does a certain approach to knowledge increase apathy? The David Wong quote caught my eye.

    Physicist Stephen Weinberg won the Nobel Prize and then said: “The more we know of the universe, the more meaningless it appears.”

    Interesting comment on his own job. Apathy comes when we stop LOOKING for meaning, not when it don't jump out at us.

  2. Hey Kenny,...Well there it is...I am constantly reminded of the famous lines from Gulag Archipelago, however, for brevity's sake, here's this;

    “If we don’t rebel, if we're not physically in an active rebellion, then its spiritual death.” ― Chris Hedges


  3. Good article Kenny.

    Panis et curcis - bread and circuses for the masses (us). The problem is the present bread is made from nutrition free GMO wheat and the circus features audience flesh eating zombies.

    We are "living" in an Orwellian nightmare and apathy prevents us waking up.

  4. Apathy is certainly part of the problem. However, I would say that blind ignorance trumps apathy. Intentional misdirection and mind-fucks are very causative in bringing about the ignorance.

    When I finally penetrate the ignorance with rednecks, they end up caring. But taking on one at a time takes so much time, no mass large enough to make a difference could ever congeal.

  5. I think the absence of a clear direction, whether from within or from outside ourselves, leads to apathy. If we know what we need to do, apathy diminishes or even vanishes.

    great pic - thanks for sharing as always,

  6. poignant, spot on...surely a tax is due. Matt. 7...on adjudication, each individual qualifies {adjudicates} the self {soul} for the next phase {Kingdom} real time.

    The paradox concerning the nature of objective validity is by design and degree instinctual..

    naturally reptilians are cold blooded

    apocalyptic allegories abound



  7. I just watched on CNN this documentary, I guess it was, or actually it seemed more like a CNN infomercial...something about a school called "The Sustainability Workshop." The founder was describing the tough road that lead him to found the school, being a teacher and so on. To demonstrate the tough road and torture he went through he says: "I joke with my students and tell him it was like water boarding"...then he chuckles. I thought, did he really just say that? Something for the audience to lighten the effect of the term. Kinda like "water boarding, don't you hate that?"
    I really hate mainstream TV, (I only watch TV for RT news and we know that ain't so great either)I catch just a few minutes of it and I see it's worse than ever.

  8. I found that CNN program here.
    there is also a segment on the disappearance of the bees which a beekeeper tells us no one knows what happened and that a popular hypothesis is "aliens did it." Then he goes on to tell us that they (the bee experts) are working on bee health. No mention of Monsanto and we already know that Monsanto is the cause.
    I hope this is not off topic but I see it all interrelated. I read comments on the CNN page and people are praising Dr. Sanjay Gupta on the "inspiring program." I think they don't want to know. "thanks for the illusions."

  9. I think loving things that are part of this world is, perhaps ironically, what leads to apathy. People are in love with material possessions, sensual pleasures (food, sex, drugs, booze, etc.) to the point where they think about them endlessly. The great spiritual teachers of history--Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, etc.--all taught that we must live a life of simplicity. The monks who followed the Buddha carried nothing but bowls. Likewise did Jesus send his disciples out--with nothing but the clothes they were wearing. Granted, that's a hard standard for us to follow in the 21st century, but I do try and keep my life as simple as possible. I don't use cell phones, and I haven't owned a TV in 13 years. I'm also a vegetarian and eat very simple meals. Not hard to do when you get used to it. So there you have it--my cure for apathy! About all I can tell you is that it works for me! :)

    1. I read somewhere that everything material (including body fat) is a buffer between the individual and the spiritual world. I've also heard that skinny people claim they feel closer to God (maybe cuz they are dying ha ha ha)

  10. Hi all. I'm slow in getting back with everyone. Great comments and as always appreciate the feedback. I hope all of you are having a little cooler weather than we are.

    1. Its been between 89 and 99 degrees for about 5 days and will continue to be for at least the next 8 days. And I'm near Philly so this is very hot for us. I can handle the cold but this stuff just makes me tired. Ive never seen the heat so sustained before, we usually get a day or 2 break at least.

  11. WHERE DID YOU GET THAT PICTURE!!! I am a native Las Vegan, I can't believe my eyes. That picture has to be about 40 to 50 years old. It has the old Thunderbird Hotel sign in the background. My oldest brother was a busboy at that hotel when he was a teenager, he is 65 now. That Circus Circus merry go round is long gone and the buffet will run you about $20.00 now. I always swing by your website because you always seem to have some unique things on it.....but this is FANTASTIC!

  12. What's the cure for apathy? Need.

    As long as humans perceive (rightly or wrongly, that they do not need to be involved, to care, to change, or to do anything at all (because their lives are comfortable), then apathy will reign supreme.

    Only "NEED" will change this.

    The answer then is to take away all the comforts, all the easy living, all the "helps", all the assistance, virtually everything (supermarkets, televisions, shopping malls, jobs, I mean "everything") and they will finally get up off their lazy fat asses and realize that they must start helping themselves (and thereby help each other).

    Apathy comes from a "satiated existence". The solution is to dismantle it all. ~Survival Acres~

  13. i havent given this deep, long thought.

    my experience has the zionized west apathetc.

    crucify christ again. no response.

    the islamic countries are not.

    cartoons of muhammad (pbuh). hell breaks lose.

    i think - good.

    something has meaning.

  14. Thanks again for the excellent food for thought, Kenny. Once again may I commend you on your consistently clever use of illustrations and photos with your posts.

    Apathy, of course, is a Greek word meaning a- (without) pathos (feeling). People feel things when something resonates with them. If you quote me a bunch of numbers saying "this many people were killed in the Iraq war" and I don't feel particularly inclined to do the mental leap of forming images in my mind so I can get all depressed about something I "can't hardly do anything about anyway" nothing's going to resonate, no heartstrings plucked, etc ... but if you show me a picture of a kid that looks like my own son with his chest riddled with bullet holes (and there *is* a particular picture like that) I'm going to want to throw the computer monitor across the room.

    I do think denial is the sibling of apathy. And of course denial stems from fear. I used to have a sign I carried around San Francisco that said "Love conquers fear." A simplistic answer, I know ...


    I've seen Nigel speak in Helsinki, for a similar kind of audience of faces of apathy. Entertainment value? Hell yes.

    1. A preferred version, without the weepy music,

    2. Isnt Farage an "austerity" loving banker whore though?

    3. What does it matter? He's a MEP. They neither propose nor pass legislation.

      Personally I have no need to expect the perfect leader out of everyone with the potential to stir people up from the state of apathy. Thanks to Farage and the like, people in Europe are well awakening to the reality of their governing bodies. Not very successful, not very democratic, not very economic...

      Though, as a Finn, I have to say Farage is in a bit odd league for hanging with the True Finns, namely with Timo Soini. All I need to say is that a "true finn" who's catholic is pretty anomalous a finn... Also, Soini's master thesis was on political rhetoric which should place him outside of the political arena, yet instead he has brought populism with all its tools to Finnish political discourse - American style. Not a good thing.

    4. It matters because Farage would have us still under the rule of the bankers. His anger means nothing in light of that.

  16. Oh, one more thing:

    Apathy was originally a VIRTUE. (Ain't it so! They turn our virtues against us!)

    Original Greek comes to APATHEIA.

    "According to the Stoics, apatheia was the quality that characterized the sage."

    "...a state of mind where one is not disturbed by the passions. It is best translated by the word equanimity rather than indifference..."

  17. John Friend=David Shayler=turd in the punch bowlJuly 3, 2012 at 7:00 AM

    Pussy boy John Friend is placing people on "moderation" now and scrubbing whole comments. This after he refused to debate the merits of Hitlers own words(and deleted them as well). Spread the word, John Friend appears to be a shill engaging in heavy censorship. Whether you agree with his views on HItler or not shouldn't he be man enough to allow differing views on his site? not if he has an agenda, no.

    1. dearest, anonymous shlomo shit smear - if 'you' REALLY wanted to provide the (non-existent) links 'you' would have done so. hardee har har. yet here is 'your' retort that only serves to detract.

      bogus quotes bozo. why even argue?

      it's the SMEAR anonymous shlomo shitters are after... and at it they are quite adept. slinging it pell-mell they are shit specialists. fecal aficionados whose product is mustered in the kosher kitchen. what a horrid wafting scent... is it seder in here?... no, just an avalanche of anonymous shit defecated from anonymous assholes. stick around and you're guaranteed seconds... they've got plenty. hell, they'll pile it on... just keep your plate steady.


      john friend's post on the truth about hitler and national socialism is what is crucially important here. re-read it! critically think about it for yourself. hitler and the example of the NSDAP is STILL - to this very moment - the most immediate threat to the criminal enterprise that is world-wide judaism. therefore the jews can NEVER let hitler be represented in a true light. EVER. this is why john has so much immediate 'attention' from hitler detractors. to cloud the light.

      if it says 'anonymous' - even if it is a clever stage-name - caveat emptor.

    2. Excrement impacts the air bladesJuly 3, 2012 at 3:54 PM

      Anti-war, truth seeker arrested and jailed sans trial July 3, 2012.

      As Chairman of the British Constitution Group, Roger Hayes has been an outspoken public speaker warning the British public that their rights and freedoms under Common Law and the Constitution are being stripped away and replaced by a dictatorship of secret courts operating under Administrative and Statute Law.

      There is no doubt that his success in alerting ever more people to the dangers of the British / EU dictatorship being built by a criminal element now masquerading as British politicians, has caused the State to imprison Roger. His challenge to the fraudulent banking system, as evidenced by the criminal acts of Barclays bank and today’s resignation by arch Bilderberger and BBC advisor Marcus Agius, will also have made Roger enemies within Britain’s wide criminal banking cabal.

    3. K(osher)KK BM or Brian Morrison,

      You must be JF's handler. You're doing a superb job acting like IDF StormFront goon, a match made in heaven. Let the other guy provide his supporting docs then jump on him if his points are shoddy.

      JF is taking the same route Prothink took and will end up the same way- into blackhole.

    4. Brian Morrison is John Friends biggest groupie. Cant blame him for coming to his mans defense I guess.

    5. "I don't see much future for the Americans ... it's a decayed country. And they have their racial problem, and the problem of social inequalities ... my feelings against Americanism are feelings of hatred and deep repugnance ... everything about the behaviour of American society reveals that it's half Judaised, and the other half negrified. How can one expect a State like that to hold together?"

      Statement in conversation, 7 January 1942, as quoted in Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by William L. Shirer p. 895, from transcripts published as Hitler's Secret Conversations, 1941–1944 (1953). These should not be confused with later publications such as "Hitler's Secret Book" (1961) from transcripts of 1928, nor the widely known hoax of the Hitler Diaries.

      "National socialism is the determination to create a new man. There will no longer exist any individual arbitrary will, nor realms in which the individual belongs to himself. The time of happiness as a private matter is over."

      As quoted in Joachim C. Fest (1974), Hitler. New York: Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, p. 533.

      "I have never liked France or the French, and I have never stopped saying so." (15th February 1945)

      "The peoples of Islam will always be closer to us than, for example, France." (2nd April 1945)

      "The universalists, the idealists, the Utopians all aim too high. They give promises of an unattainable paradise, and by doing so they deceive mankind. Whatever label they wear, whether they call themselves Christians, Communists, humanitarians, whether they are merely sincere but stupid or wire-pullers and cynics, they are all makers of slaves. I myself have always kept my eye fixed on a paradise which, in the nature of things, lies well within our reach. I mean an improvement in the lot of the German people." (21st February 1945)

      if you have issues forgetting dear adolf, wait a year or two - the finnish creators of the movie iron sky have promised to make a hologram of aatu and have him play a part in the sequel. I will personally take contact to them and ask them to consider giving a greater role to pekka siitoin - a much more charismatic führer.

      the only recording of hitler speaking in private involves discussing f-land as a moral threat to the soviet union (giggles and all):

  18.’s “crime” is that he has been refusing to pay his Council tax, because along with other state taxes, a proportion of the tax revenue gathered is being sent to the European Union, used to fund unlawful wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria, and promote terrorism right around the world. To pay tax under these circumstances is, at the very least, unlawful under Section 15(3) of the Terrorism Act 2000.

    As such the present government of UK in Westminster is complicit to terrorist action and war crimes and therefore the payment of taxes to an unlawful, criminal regime is itself a criminal act – one in which Roger refused to participate.

    In addition to his stance on taxes for unlawful purposes, Roger has also been campaigning for the Lawful Bank – a monetary initiative in which money can be issued to the public as credit, rather than as crippling debt under the existing corrupt and fraudulent International Monetary System.

  19. A growing number of people, both old and young, know that things like 'people power' are fake. But the majority still find that their jobs, their child rearing, and their leisure activities, leave them no time to read blogs like this.

    - Aangirfan

    1. Not an Aangir fanJuly 4, 2012 at 5:48 PM

      If you're not going to seriously address the zionist jew/israel global problem would you please intercourse off! (I'm trying to be polite)

    2. Aagirfan; it's The Zionists And The Satanists! Get with the program!

    3. hey Aagirfan, does tavistock pay you extra to troll?

  20. it's possible that john friend was replaced

    1. Obviously.

      I'm still on the fence about this. Yes, Hitler idealized the white race, but from what I can tell he was more pro-German, pro-white than anti-other races (except the Jews of course). He recognized that white Europeans have the potential to accomplish great things (more so than other races), and understood that Aryans are superior in organizing political and getting things done, which I think it correct (yes, now I suppose I'm a racist, too, lol). But that doesn't mean I think other races are below the white race or anything like that.
      Uber Alles And The Wrong Path...

    2. There also was the whole "pure blood" thing he talked about, and that wasnt just about the jews. The man was a white supremacist. To some people thats ok, even great. To me it means hes more like the zionist jews than any of his biggest fans would like to admit.

  21. USA, We re bankrupt!July 7, 2012 at 2:47 AM


    The Fascist Business Model is not just showing its bitter fruit after the Bush II Admin came to office in 2001. It is flourishing in a climax of failure. The model does not simply permit financial crime. It encourages it. It promotes it. It rewards it. The higher powers organize it and run it. The result is not simply tolerated financial crime. It enables financial crime to flourish. The USAttorney General office sits on its hands. The Commodity Futures Trading Commission sits on its hands. The Securities & Exchange Commission sits on its hands. The financial press ignores the crime, or minimizes it, or explains it away. They all pay lipservice to enforcement of regulations and securities fraud. The outcome is a mindnumbing episode of financial fraud, theft, and collusion that the nation has never witnessed in its entire history. The outcome is an extreme strangle of the nation around its financial neck. In Jackass writings over the last several year, the word 'corruption' has appeared many times in almost every public article. That is because corruption appeared in every direction the trained eye was cast. For some articles, the word appeared over 20 times, and deservedly. My attention to corruption is steadfast and consistent. Corruption is Wall Street's calling card. It will bear the epitaph of the nation.

    The pilfering Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac: The raids, counterfeit, and other grand larceny of the OFHEO agencies is legendary. The Sopranos showed the modus operandi. Obtain a phony appraisal of a rotten property. Lock in the loan. Buy the property for a fraction of the loan amount. Then make no payments and abscond with the loaned funds. Easy as pie. The Papa Bush Admin and Clinton Admin went one further. They simply stole from the Fannie Mae cash register and snagged a mountain of counterfeit bonds with Fannie Mae markings, to the tune of $1.5 trillion, or $1500 billion for the math challenged. The audits conducted by Catherine Austin Fitts stand on the record in verifying the volume in theft. The funds are devoted to private accounts and to black bag operations by the agencies. After all, they must keep America safe and strong. When China began to sell in earnest from their vast supply of Fannie bonds in 2007 and 2008, the USGovt had to take action. So they nationalized the toxic cesspool. Their action served to conceal the criminality and to prevent an audit. Leadership has become privilege and license for theft. The Fannie stock shares went to zero, exactly as the Jackass forecasted in 2006 and 2007.

    A colleague has a personal friend in charge of security at Fort Knox. He reports they stand guard over Fort Knox alright, but it contains a vast inventory of nerve gas cannisters, and zero gold. The US as a nation has no collateral to back its USDollar currency. The US bank officials refuse to conduct an audit of the gold. The insiders declare that an audit would give emphasis to its importance and value. The laughter is raucous when reading the Office for the Comptroller to the Currency reports, when the ledger item of Deep Storage Gold is read. It is merely unmined ore in Western mountain deposits. The USGovt is in posssession of zero gold.

    1. More financial crimeJuly 7, 2012 at 2:57 AM

      Computers trading with each other to falsely raise/lower stock prices: In 2010, a nasty event struck with revelation of computers gone amok on the New York Stock Exchange. The deep decline on a single day demonstrated the absence of indigenous investors in a land overrun by computers. The details came out slowly. The NYSE volume had been at least 80% computer trades routinely. The big Wall Street firms were selling to each other, running up the stock prices in a levitation fraud process. It was an orchestrated internal Ponzi exercise. Yet the plum story was the Goldman Suchs internal unix box that caught a peek at the order flow, placed orders in front of the flow, and ripped small profits on millions of trades. When the unix box and software was captured by a Russian fellow in order to expose the syndicate, he was branded a criminal. The FBI rushed to arrest him at the airport. Rumors swirled that the software was being sold on the black market. He was quietly taken care of. The entire episode was contained. Goldman Suchs was never prosecuted, even protected by the vast USGovt army. The integrity of the New York Stock Exchange was kept at the same corrupt level. Activity resumed.

    2. Et voila! The country of origin is namedJuly 7, 2012 at 3:04 AM

      Ponzi schemes a la Madoff: One of the biggest shocks to the Jackass in recent years was the revelation by a deep banker source of the so-called Role Programs. Many were described, all managed by the USDept Treasury and the Bank of England, its master. The volume of criminal fraud and scams is in the hundreds of $billions. One such scheme was the Madoff Fund thefts. The public was told repeatedly that Madoff made off with $50 billion in funds, with many victims left in the lurch. The true figure was $160 billion in stolen funds. The search was on to locate the funds, when the officials knew exactly where the funds were safely located and stored. Yet another charade, much like searching for the MFGlobal funds, all safely kept in JPMorgan London accounts. The Madoff funds were located in Switzerland for safe keeping. The banks involved all had one national trait in common, from a small nation on the Southern Mediterranean that looked northwest to Italy across the sea. The banks were all protected by some very strange laws in Switzerland that forbid investigation of fraud.

    3. Are we fools? (again)July 7, 2012 at 3:20 AM

      "The 2003 charade was given focus on weapons of mass destruction posssessed by Iraq. A war was waged. A hefty supply of gold bullion bars was stolen from Baghdad at their central bank. The amount was not reported or learned. The charade went so far as to show video clips of snagged yellow bars, not gold, but wooden bars painted yellow. Quite the production to cover the theft of a national gold treasure. It belonged to the Iraqi people, not Saddam Hussein. A similar charade has been playing for the last several months over Iran. The public is told of a Iran nuclear weapons factory threat. The story is old and stale, having been recited to a foolish audience for a few years running. The weapons of mass destruction did not exist in Iraq. The WMD story was a cover for cause in war, to cover the fact that Saddam had been selling crude oil in Euros. The key fact was sale outside the USDollar. The USGovt reacted by protecting its sacred Petro-Dollar. The parallel to today is clear for the enlightened, who are few in number. The Iran threat is not nuclear, not of weapons of mass destruction. The common architect for the phony story is that small nation on the Southern Mediterranean. Keep it vague in identification. The parallel violation by Iran is selling crude oil outside the USDollar. The American and European public are being for fools again."

      The draft is on the table (again) like it was for Viet Nam. America, sweet America do you see what is happening? Do you care what your children and grandchildren will live in?

      It is time to peacefully remove the sitting government of the United States of America and replace it with a government representative of the citizens - in full accordance will the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

      To do anything less is treason against ourselves and our progeny.

      My heart is crying for you America. Very evil forces are in control of your short destiny.

      If America enters a third world war, they will be defeated and America as we know it will cease to exist.

      Think of your children and ACT.

  22. Wars, ALL war, are fought by the bankers for the bankers - but they use you and your children as cannon fodder.

    Thou shall not kill.

    What part of that fact is unclear?

    A moral argument can be made for killing in self defense of oneself, one's family and one's country - but wars of agression? Invading other countries to steal their land and resources?


    Doesn't matter if you're Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, Budist or another religion respecting God.


  23. End the wars by exposing Rothschilds lieJuly 7, 2012 at 9:23 AM

    "General Patton, military governor of Germany after the war reported that millions of Jews followed the Russian Army into Germany, demanding to occupy German cities and be given the homes of German citizens.

    The real story of General Patton can never be told, though movies depict his assassination as admitted to in 1979, a man named George Barza, that, as in a recent book and the TV movie. Patton was killed when a truck hit him purposefully, Patton was then shot with a low velocity projectile then executed with cyanicde by his doctors.

    Paying for this was a Wall Street lawyer named Bill Donovan or as he called himself, Wild Bill Donovan, head of the OSS. Allen Dulles was in the OSS also. Neither were heroic or brave, in fact, both could and should have been executed as traitors. Donovan killed Patton for some of the reasons indicated, that “allies didn’t like what he did.” By “allies,” Donovan meant his bosses, as he was a Wall Street lawyer who worked for a powerful European banking family, originating in Frankfurt, onced named Bauer.

    Dulles was working for the consortium behind Stalin. Dulles was working for Hitler and later became head of the CIA, was fired by Kennedy for incompetence but later ran the Warren Commission.
    Patton was killed in a Cadillac. It is supposed to be on display, it is not. The Patton story, our greatest general, murdered by our own government on behalf of Russians because

    - he challenged the stories about the holocaust and concentration camps -

    is not taught at West Point. They keep his papers, purged of truth, require cadets to read a heavily edited version of his letters and diaries.

    It was why he was killed and would be, were he to travel to Europe or Canada, jailed. Patton thought the war on Germany was wrong, that allowing the Russians to kill millions of Germans after the war was wrong, that the Americans murdering over one million Germany POWs was wrong so he was killed.
    Did the US murder over one million POWs. Yes. Did Russia kill 8.5 million Germans after the war. Yes? Did millions of Jews return to Europe that were supposed to have died in the holocaust?

    Patton’s says so in his diaries. As for me, I don’t know. Did our greatest General lie? Maybe. All is public, all is there to be read, the unexpurgated version of his writings, not the edited version told to our young fools. So, technically, Patton, American governor of Germany after the war said the holocaust didn’t occur, he was a “holocaust denier.”

    Many years ago, I took my kids to visit Dachau. I saw the photos of the gas chambers, rows of them, the huge crematorium, the signs, all of it. When I got there I found the things I saw in books were photographs from a movie set."

    Does anyone anywhere need any more proof that the 6-million-gas-chamber story is totally fake and coming directly from the Frankfurt family originally named Bauer?

    Grab your brain and let's end this Orwellian facade by zionist international central bankers like Rothschild.

    Stop the lies.

    1. Here's the link:

    2. Israel murdered 34 Americans on June 8, 1967July 7, 2012 at 10:40 AM

      "On the day before America celebrated our Independence from a British Occupation with the promise that held “these truths to be self-evident: That all [people] are created equal; that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights…that, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among [people] deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; and, whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the RIGHT of the people to ALTER or to ABOLISH it” Ron (Kukal, Navy, SS Liberty) concluded our phone interview by stating, “It will take an Act of God” before The Churches Wake Up to Israel’s brutal attack on the USS LIBERTY."

      Had enough of israel/zionism/Rothschild killing Americans yet?

      I have.

  24. John Friend sent me an email saying he was unable to reply and asked me to post this.

    "I don't know what is up with blogger, but I cannot comment on blogs that have the comments embedded for some reason now. If you don't mind, could you post this for me in response to these anonymous clowns that do nothing but gossip and talk shit?

    Here is what I was trying to submit on the Apathetic Spectators at the Circum Maximus post:

    LOL, man you guys are pathetic. Some of you anonymous clowns remind me of those immature, petty, bitchy high school girls no one liked because all they did was talk shit about people behind their back and start rumors. What, do you just sit around all day reading blogs, trying to "expose" people for honestly writing their thoughts and ideas down for the world to see? Do you ever actually do anything in real life to advance our cause? Do you even have a life, other than leaving anonymous comments on blogs?

    I haven't delved into the whole racial aspect of all this, and I didn't want to start a big ruckus at Timster's because I haven't fully formed an opinion on race. One thing seems clear to me: the Jews are one of the most racially aware groups on the planet, and have used multiculturalism and immigration to largely destroy white European societies. I would argue that the US is a manufactured white European society, but it's clear traditional white European society is under attack here and in Europe.

    BTW - I don't know what's up with the embedded comments, I can't comment here or on my blog using my Blogger profile for some reason. That's why I had to go back to the pop up window for comments, which I find really annoying."

    1. "honestly writing their thoughts". Thats debatable. I dont know John, I think its just as immature and petty to DELETE WHOLE POSTS that you disagree with because somebody didnt include a link or something. Sorry John, you are slipping. And Hitler HAD fully formed opinions on race. And like the zionists you claim to be against, it was a SUPREMACIST ideology. Go ahead John, be a racist tool like the zionist scum you claim you're against. Its the only sell-out bridge left to cross for you I believe.

  25. Well said anon: 8:27 am.

    It is obvious that Mr. Friend is reciting like a zombie supremacist parrot, with scripts provided. Who are his handlers these days?

    1. Its not even "these days". This is how these things usually work. Controlled ops(or even just useful idiots that are being manipulated, which I suspect John of being more than a "professional" himself) always build up some cred before they spread their poison tentacles. John did so. Ive liked a lot of his stuff. But I have been seeing a trend for some time. Hes frankly gotten worse and worse and then he went all out with both the "tv fakery" angle and the Hitler angle.

    2. Yes, that Hitler angle was nail in the coffin.

    3. Check his latest comments, hes threatening to delete comments again. John Friend just keeps showing his hand lately.

    4. Oh wow, comment approval now? Does this have anything to do with the offer to publish your blog? Not a good sign. Ive always valued this blog and its owner for being willing to allow open debate without fear of any kind of censorship.

    5. Are comments being "moderated" on only this thread now or all of them? Is this about protecting John Friend? The guy brought it on himself, at some point hes going to have to defend his positions.

    6. I have had the comments set to moderation only for those over 10 days old for a number of months now. Believe it or not it keeps the spam to a minimum. Someone had suggested it for all of the advertising spam I was getting, I tried it, it worked fairly well and I've kept those settings. That's all there is to it. I mentioned it at the time I set moderation for older posts. Here:

      As far as the offer to publish on the other blog, I don't know who they are and I'm going to ignore them. No offense to them if they are legit.

      I've been busy and dealing with some small personal issues so I haven't posted much lately. I hope to get back to it soon.

  26. Sorry for the freak out. With John Friend and some other sites starting to censor I thought it caught on here.

    That offer did seem kind of weird by the way. Good call on that probably.

    I knew when we didn't get a 4th of July post from you something was amiss. Good luck with everything.

    1. Non-stop Hitler adulation continues at Mr. Friend's neo-supremacist site.

    2. Anon@12:50, not sure if you saw the thread above but "John Friend" admits to being paid by "Prothink". Which is kind of like admitting you've been paid by the Mossad itself imho.

    3. Tried to respond but I guess its in the ether.